June 14, 2013

Flagship Beer Day 2013

Today, June 14th is Flag Day, a day in which we commemorate the adoption of the old Stars and Bars. Last year, I introduced the concept of blogging about local breweries top selling craft beers or flagships. The idea was to celebrate the beers that allow breweries to be successful in our communities. Flagship beers allow brewers to create beers that might be more resource or time intensive--a fair number which are loss leaders.

Face it. It may have been years since that last time that you've had a Kilt Lifter or an Orange Blossom. Your palate has changed. You have changed. You know more than you did then. Might you now have a new opinion?

This year, time has been the tyrant and I won't be able to write a post about a specific flagship beer. I'm torn between heading to lunch for a Sun Up Trooper or finding out what Fate considers it's top seller to be. (In fact, given their gangbusters out-of-the-gate popularity, their flagship may not even be on tap today.)

I'll be mentioning a bit more about flagship beers in a guest post for the Four Peaks Brewsletter that should hit your inbox around June 26th. You can subscribe here. This will be the inaugural post of a section devoted to local bloggers. More on that in a future post.

You can read a round-up of last year's Flagship Beer Day here.  Also see local beer gadfly, Hop Head Fred's Flagship Beer Month in May chronicled here. I should get him to change his month to June. What say you Fred?


June 10, 2013

Beer Ecology | More than Buildings, People and Beer


This week, I found a concept that helped me look at  the growth, health and diversity of our beer community and beer culture. It's also revelatory in how we might fill in the gaps and deal with the lack of richness and consistency in the experiences we have here in Phoenix.

Our urban landscape closely maps to the highs and lows of our beer scene. If I could drive one point home it would be on how the parking lot real estate complex has stifled the growth of new breweries (and bars, restaurants and shops) in downtown Phoenix. You can catch up on what I've written here--And An Urbanist Shall Lead Us.

Once again, Taz Looman's blog, Blooming Rock is the source of my personal revelation. This time the writer is a guest, Kirby Hoyt. In Why We Need to Think About Infrastructure as More Than Just Roads and Bridges, Hoyt talks about the concept of ecology, not in the biological or environmentalist movement sense, but anthropological:
The term ecology simply means the relationship of organisms to each other and their surroundings. When thinking of landscape as infrastructure, one should emulate the conditions of the natural environment in a conspicuously designed manner. The diversity of the landscape should meet those of the natural environment, if possible. At the very least, landscape as infrastructure should contain overlapping programs to ensure a diverse ecology.
So instead of just talking about the role of raised buildings and how public transportation fails Phoenicians for beer drinkers, we need to take a more holistic approach on all things beer.

Each of these could take up post on its own, but here are my thoughts:
  • While I think that it's important to save the buildings that we still have, there are numerous empty strip malls. Many are either too big or too small. Using these buildings could require some creativity, partnerships with other businesses and flexible landlords. We also need to encourage partnerships with architects and urban planners.
  • Most of our Arizona beer drinking places have really failed to take full advantage of our outdoor drinking spaces. This has much to do with minimum parking requirements and working with local permitting agents. A success story is OHSO taking advantage of its northern exposure creating a dog-friendly outdoor space. Natural shade and trees are an integral part of the classic biergarten. We could do better here.
  • Beer has gone from a seasonal and local enterprise to a model where any style from any city can be created anytime. Might it be to time to look at beer styles that better reflect our climate? Might it be time to re-examine the current beer market? This may come as a surprise to some craft beer enthusiasts, but compared to the rest of the country, Arizona is not pulling its craft beer weight. I've heard from a few insiders that our Symphony/IRI numbers trail other states by an embarrassingly wide margin. Arizona has far too many macro beer drinkers and there are too few craft beer breweries tapping the large Hispanic market. After all, as Alworth alludes, "People Know Less About Beer Than You Think". In Arizona, the divide seems Grand Canyon-esque. The notion of making a popular approachable beer here is essential and would take advantage of a local conditions. One can't help but think of New Glarus' top selling adjunct lager that outsells Miller in its own backyard.
  • In Arizona, we seem to equate auto transportation dollars with notions of freedom and independance and yet I can think of nothing more freeing and independent than knowing that I can hop on a bus or light rail without fear of a DUI. The opportunities in which public transportation works in conjunction with a craft beer lifestyle are essentially nil. These types of transportation expenditures are generally regarded as wasteful or give-aways. In the meantime, in 2012 there were 27,000 DUI arrests. Anecdotally, a good number of those were some of my craft beer friends. It's not uncommon to hear about 100 mile commutes in the name of "supporting" craft beer. This is not a sustainable strategy.
What are your thoughts on beer ecology?

May 24, 2013

The Magical Listical Tour | Lazy, Ass-Kissy, Effective and Odds on Bad for Beer Writing.


Roll up WE'LL RUIN EVERYTHING YOU READ, roll up for the listical tour.
Roll up TO MAKE OUR IMPRESSION RATES SUCCEED, roll up for the listical tour
The Magical Listical Tour is waiting for your clicks today,
Waiting for your clicks to pay, your clicks pay.
Yesterday a tweet of mine came full circle. (Twitter is useful.)


Bill Night went on to post at the New School Blog: PISS AND VINEGAR: 10 REASONS I HATE LISTICLES. Don't worry, there is no list, but Bill points out that it's lazy, effective and ass-kissy. On the internet, that trio is a cat pic away from having all Four Horses of the Apocalypse. 

On how the air of authority masks a lack of content:
What's wrong with making lists?  Nothing at all.  But the listicle format is so easy to churn out that many paper publications and blogs end up full of vapid, uninformed musings, conveniently shrink-wrapped into easy-to-skim numbered lists.  Slap a number on it--and a superlative like "best" or "top"--and suddenly whatever you thought of just now takes on an air of authority.  An ordered list might have some meaning if there was some data behind it, but the lists we are constantly assaulted with are nothing more than a bunch of things that happened to catch someone's attention recently.
On the proliferation of sucking up:
I think another part of the appeal is that you get to kiss a lot of asses at one time with a listicle.  In these times of social-media log-rolling, listing 186 beers will get your article 186 Facebook thumbs and Twitter retweets just from the breweries themselves.  Some percentage of the breweries' followers will go on to share the links, then you re-tweet those as they come your way, and now your listicle is bouncing off the walls of the social media echo chamber.
One thing that Bill missed and Jeff Alworth mentions in the comments is the nature of page views and impressions. Advertisers pay for number of impressions and so if you can break a piece up in 5 pieces you get five impressions instead of one. Farhad Manjoo explains all of this in a Slate article and why there is no technological reason for this type of web pagination. Slate, you will note, breaks articles across multiple pages but does have a single page link on the bottom left of page 1 on every post. Slate was also the publisher of a piece on Hops Ruining Beer. (I put that on a single page for you.) Many on the web were calling the author of that post lazy. Thirteen hundred words is not lazy. Not list lazy.

So what to do about multipage posts that are 5, 10 and 25 clicks long? I used to skip them de riguer. Enter Deslider, a webpage that parses multi-click website slideshows and presents them on one page. Now it doesn't work on The Phoenix New Times standard two page minimum click type of article but it did work for a piece on 25 Breweries to Watch. Compare the original to the deslider version.

Hat tip to Matthew Elliot for pointing out this web tool.





May 23, 2013

The Blast and the Beerious | Guest Tapping at Sleepy Dog Pub and Bistro

Just a quick note to let you all know that I am joining the beer pouring circus again tonight at the Sleepy Dog Pub and Bistro in THE GILBERT, home of beer fearing politician and AZ State Senate President, Andy Biggs. You may have seen my other pouring events documented here and here. No fancy photoshop this time, but the theme is Matt Weber's favorite movie franchise the Fast and the Furious!

Behold!






I know what you are thinking. "Butthole" does sound disparaging, but note the British spelling of theater as theatre. We are looking at a fan of the stage here and of course butthole doth disparage the grand proscenium. Matt is playing the thespian in the tradition of Vin Diesel and The Rock. He hath pulled the wool over mine own eyes and yours too! He loves that flick!

Come on down and let's talk Fast and Furious. Our cast tonight:
  • Me as Vin Diesel.
  • ASHer Greg "Happy Hour Guy" Garcia as The Rock.
  • James Swann as an explosion.
  • Hop Head Fred as another explosion in slow motion.
  • Matt Weber as The love interest.
  • Jeff Prior as Another love interest.
  • Sleepy Dog's Belgian Trippel as a car that we all desire.
  • Firestone Walker Wookie Jack as a black car we all desire.

As per tradition I will be driving in late across the entire freaking valley and I will limit my glassware breakage to 1 pint glass.


Sleepy Dog Pub & Bistro
1451 E Williams Field Rd, Gilbert, AZ 85295
Phone:(480) 963-1805


May 20, 2013

Gregory Fretz of Phoenix Ale Brewery Passes at 44.


The Arizona beer community was stunned with the news of Gregory "Fretzy" Fretz passing on Saturday. Word spread from the beer tents at the Amer-CAN Canned Craft Beer Festival that Fretzy passed in his sleep after after a battle with throat cancer. It was a shock, to say the least, since Fretz had been active all during American Craft Beer Week including an open house at Phoenix Ale Brewery on Thursday. The open house announced  the operational partnership with Sonoran Brewing Company. After the festival, industry and fans gathered at the nearby Praying Monk to remember and to hear the words of others. Chuck Noll of Crescent Crown led the crowd with a moving tribute.

Fretzy had been in the beer industry since 1994 with long stints at Pyramid and Deschutes Brewery before co-founding Phoenix Ale Brewery with George Hancock. Gary Fish, President of Deschutes credits Fretzy with developing the Arizona market for brands like Black Butte Porter. Fretz was able to get Deschutes everywhere across the state and he also secured handles in some of Arizona's most iconic destinations including the El Tovar Hotel in the Grand Canyon and at (then) Bank One Ballpark.

Greg Fretz was the namesake for an unfiltered English pale ale and an unfiltered wheat with the pale ale serving as the company's flagship. Fretz was also the driving force behind the Phoenix Brewers Invitational Beer Festival held last December. It will be impossible to separate American Craft Beer Week, the Phoenix Brewers Invitational, AmeriCAN and of course Fretzy's Ales without out thinking of his gravelly voice and ebullient manner. Fretz was able to talk about his treatments with just about anyone and provided comfort to those that knew someone battling cancer. Such is the role that he played in my life.

This is a particularly difficult spring for the beer community as Arizona has lost Professor David Conz in April.

Greg is survived by his wife and two children. Arrangements and memorials have yet to be announced. Our thoughts are with them.


EDIT: Fretzy's wife Stacie has announced a fund to support the family in this dire time.
http://www.gofundme.com/2zyfhw
Greg was the kind of person that would say a few kind words, smile and buy you a beer if he saw that you were down. Please consider sending a few bucks their way.

May 15, 2013

Expand my what?

A pallet outside of a palate expansion emporium.

"Stop drinking fizzy yellow stuff. Expand your pallet!!!!" - Source, the google.

I often see "craft beer" as a rallying point to expand one's experience in terms of flavor. Seven times out of ten*, it seems that I'm being literally asked to enlarge the wooden skids in my figurative warehouse (wherehouse / were-house).

pal·let 
/?palit/
Noun
A portable platform on which goods can be moved, stacked, and stored, esp. with the aid of a forklift.
Synonyms
palette - paillasse

pal·ate 
/?palit/
Noun
The roof of the mouth, separating the cavities of the nose and the mouth in vertebrates.
A person's appreciation of taste and flavor.
Synonyms
taste - savour - savor - flavour - flavor - relish

pal·ette 
/?palit/
Noun
A thin board or slab on which an artist lays and mixes colors.
The range of colors used by a particular artist or in a particular picture.
Synonyms
pallet

There seems to be a natural tendency for this plea to be followed with hit-you-over-the-head descriptions of beers that are barrel aged, bourbon and hop bombs. Presumably, expanding your palate involves detecting the obvious.

Here's another thought. Expanding your palate could also mean improving your sensory on very subtle flavors and the language used to communicate them to others. I'm pleased to see that two valley beer writers have done just that in recent days. Alyssa is relating here experiences on the low numbered BJCP styles (1, 2, 3) brilliantly while Zach smiths out Sunbru's delicate flavors here.

Fizzy yellow stuff. Can you taste the green apple? Sulphur? Cereal? Corn? Expand it man, expand it!

*Made up stat.

May 3, 2013

The Session #75 | Business of Brewing

In this installment of The Session, Chuck Lenatti of AllBrews asks that we reflect on the Business of Brewing. He makes that observation that anyone that has brewed has probably considered going pro and he asks that we provide insight to those considering taking the leap. I facetiously tackled some of this in an April Fools post, but that was as much a poke at myself than at anyone else.

I am an observer and student of the business of beer. Let it be known, however,  that I have made in excess of $0.00 selling it or promoting it. I also have an extensive background in opening exactly 0 breweries. I am currently consulting no one on their new East Coast brewery. I will also resort to semantic trickery, leaps in logic and made-up statistics to win arguments. Here is my sage advice:
  • Decide right now if you have the aptitude and the desire for public speaking. No? Then shut up. Hire someone or find a partner that will do this for you. You are making, selling and promoting your business with everything you say, everything that you write and anything that has your name or logo on it. Everything you produce that isn't beer is also a marketing piece for your beer.
  • Have that gift for gab? Maybe also consider shutting up. You might not be as charming as you think. Get an outside evaluation.
  • Do not solicit investments on the internet. There are rules. Google it.
  • Speaking of Google, use it so that you don't run into a trademark issue. 
  • Once you are on a clear track to start up and you're adamant about social media, please note Rule 5.
  • As a start up, a social media strategy is not required. It may also be a time suck. 
  • All of the see-and-be-seen events with the craft beer world, the facebook mugging with other brewers, "the research" in a glass... These things do not write your business plan or cut your floor drains.
  • As a business owner, you are a host. You are trading in hospitality (if you are a brewpub) or your product engenders hospitality (if you are a production brewery). When someone is visiting you, they are coming to your home. Are you not that guy? Find someone to run the front of the house who is.
  • Have an elevator pitch that focuses on the role of your business in the community. Talk about employment, economic growth, sense of community and how your business will be transformative. You are the driver that takes them to the place we all want to go to. Making high quality beer is the gasoline that runs the vehicle. Hat tip to Michael Fairbrother of Moonlight Meadery for that wonderful analogy.
  • You are going to make mistakes. Some of them will be big and it may be embarrassing. You might even compound on the problem by saying or doing something defensively and hastily. Stop. The mistakes and problems are hardly ever the reason you do not succeed. It's often how you respond to the problem that makes a difference.
  • Don't read reviews. Get someone to provide you unbiased and unemotional feedback on a regular basis. If you must respond to criticism, answer directly, provide concise information and supply an opportunity to address it off line. Move on.
  • Ignore quality at your peril.
  • Treat your water. It's not olde tyme beer anymore.
  • Kickstarter. Make it a tiny portion of your business plan if you decide to use it. At best, it's a way to move some t-shirts and show that you can put together a campaign. At worst, it can look like begging.  It's better to use Kickstarter as KickFinisher. Use it as part of the run-up to you opening.
  • Your friends. Your friends are your friends whether you make barrel aged unicorn sunshine or an amber ale. You are not making beer for your friends. You are making beer to stay alive, after that you are making beer for you.
  • Hire a brewer.
  • Hire a brewer.
  • You are far better off partnering with a lawyer, an accountant or a bicycle store owner than another homebrewer.
  • Focus on local. All of your initial resources and challenges are local. Your largest regulatory issues will arise from a municipal inspector, not the state or the federal government. The ultimate hurdle in selecting a site will be gaining neighborhood support. Your customers will not be your friends or family or the beer geeks across town, they will be your new friends and family in your new neighborhood.
  • You are responsible for educating your customers, not Greg Koch, not Sam, not Vinnie. Most of your new customers never heard of these guys, nor do they care.
  • As much as you want it to be, "all about what's in the glass", it's not. In fact, what happens outside of the glass is even more important if your beers are solid. Remember, it's hospitality and differentiating your beers from everyone else.
  • Someone may tell you that your beer sucks. They may be inarticulate, imprecise and rude. They may also be right.
  • Do blind tastings of your beer versus others in the same style. Be brutally honest.
  • Is your brewpub a warm and inviting place? Is the service good? Congratulation you're better off than most other service industries and you have delicious beer. 
  • Every beer has a story. Learn how to tell it.
  • Aspire to be more than a brewer or brewery owner. Be a community leader.
  • The news media loves beer stories that don't involve drinking and b-roll of people drinking. (Really, it's true.) Remember the elevator pitch. 
  • Tired of hearing business advice from armchair brewmasters and homebrewers? Tough. Shut up and smile or hire someone that does it better than you.

April 29, 2013

Rock Bands, Taxis and the Three Fates

It turns out there is a shortage of cool rock band names according to the Wall Street Journal. It seems hard to comprehend until the facts are laid out. Think of all the commercially successful bands that you liked and wrote on your Trapper-Keeper. Now add the horribly short window of your reign of coolness. Think of all the DJs, YouTubers, Guitar Heroes and Karaoke "stars" too that now get online and publish to My Space and Apple Garageband.

Some stats:
  • A company called Rovi tracks about 1.4 Million artists names;
  • Rovi adds an average of 6,521 new names a month; 
  • Top band variant names are Bliss (keep this one in mind), Mirage, Gemini, Legacy, Paradox and Rain.
Money quotes:
"Every other name is taken," Mr. Jones explains. "Think of a great band name and Google it, and you'll find a French-Canadian jam band with a MySpace page."
The available supply of punchy one- or two-word band names is dwindling. So, many acts are resorting to the unwieldy or nonsensical.
Among more than 1,900 acts expected in March at the South by Southwest music festival in Austin, Texas, are bands with the names And So I Watch You From Afar, and Everybody Was In the French Resistance...Now! The f-word is part of 100 band names in a media database maintained by Gracenote, a unit of Sony Corp. that licenses digital entertainment technology.
It's a real problem with C&D's and legal challenges coming from big companies as well as competing bands both new and old.

Scottsdale Fate
Is there reason for the beer world to take caution? With 2500 or so breweries and 1000's more in planning it seems like there is plenty of room for creativity. The Brewery Collectibles Club of America tracks 2250 or so US breweries. BeerMe lists 14,157 breweries and 41,753 beers. There are also untold thousands of homebrewers bandying about their monikers on bottles and online. So why is it then, that we have a Fate Brewing Co here in Scottsdale and there is also one in Boulder? The beer world is starting to see C&D letters from other industries. Who can forget the Monster / Vermonster controversy? Or the Santan / Sam Adams glassware bout? Will we see brewery names like strongly encrypted passwords or long phrases like those at South by Southwest?

Imagine 1337@l3Wl_lrk5 or Tortoise Brand Pot Scrubbing Cleaner's Brewing or some phrase from Ipsum Lorem Brewing. Maybe we should ask taxi drivers. From the WSJ article.
Boulder Fate
"A band name should pass the taxi-driver test: You shouldn't have to tell him twice"
Speaking of taxi cab driver advice, Stan Hieronymus re-tweeted some craft beer advice from ESPN's Darren Rovell.
Fate No More
If I'm cabbing in Phoenix, it's generally the "to home" leg. It would be uncommon for me to catch a lift from the Sky Harbor airport and say, "To Fate". Phoenix isn't much of a cab town, so I'm curious if I'd end up in Scottsdale, back at passenger departures or at Bliss at what was once formerly Johnny Chu's Fate.

April 22, 2013

Chow Bella Continues Phoning It In | Misses Top Local Stories

This is by no means the first time. We've chronicled the problem before. In a week where we lost Dr Dave Conz, the Arizona Craft Brewers Guild hosted a Springfest in Tucson, Four Peaks had its 16th Anniversary Festival and Ed Sipos announces the pre-sale of a landmark book, Brewing Arizona | A Century of Beer in the Grand Canyon State, here is what the New Times chooses to write about in the beer world.

The Elephant Poop Beer: This was blog fodder everywhere and passed around social media. It has no relation to anything going on in the beer world here, but if you're going to write about it why not get a take on it from Cartel since it is a beer brewed from coffee and those guy make beer and coffee. In any case, you might want to link back to your own bad selves since Zach Fowle wrote about Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel. Zach, the strongest link in your chain, wrote about the civet cat poop beer in 2010.


The Bud Bowtie Can: Another non-story which you chose to make a story. Bella, you're being hipster while invoking hipster. Here's an idea. How about getting some press over to Dapper + Dash, the local bowtie purveyor. They're smack dab in the middle of a Kickstarter campaign. ($1600 to go with 50 or so hours left.) They've done craft beer events with Tempe Handlebar and Four Peaks. You blew it. You could have re-directed Bud bowtie ire into local good.

Beer Brain Science: Hello? Beer For Brains? Are you guys writing for people that aren't on facebook? Another re-cycled presser and a blown opportunity.






















On a more positive track, the New Times enlisted Minerva Orduño Rincón, the founder of Muñeca Mexicana handcrafted food to write about Mexican Beers, "3 Tips for Avoiding Beer Tragedies of the Mexican Variety". It's a topic that needs some attention given that almost all Mexican traditional or inspired restaurants seem to feel the need to automatically include 5 or 6 Mexican macro offerings at the expense of something that actually makes sense flavor-wise.

Unfortunately, the piece relies on snark and humor. We only get hints about what the actual story should be:
I would love to be able to share more on the new crop of Mexican micro-breweries working to develop Mexican beer to include more variety than the pilsners and lagers brought by German and Polish immigrants to Mexico during the 19th century, tasty as they are. Sadly, these beers, including the awesomely named Cervecería Minerva are not readily available in the United States.
That, is in fact, the real story we want to read about. How about an actual discussion about the duopoly that is Mexican beer? Provide some insights on how the regional breweries were gobbled up by Grupo Modelo or Cervecería Cuauhtémoc-Moctezuma/FEMSA. There is nothing wrong with Negra Modelo, Pacifico, Corona, or Tecate in context, but please provide that context. Minerva write that piece please. We'll get you some Mexi-craft beers. We know people.

Finally, Zach continues to write cogent pieces on new releases. He provides context, history and makes reviews interesting. It's not easy work, beer reviews. Most come off as dry or pretentious in the tasting notes. As an old guy, I didn't need so many 80's references in his last piece on the Class of 88, but alas today's newest drinkers were born in the 90's. There is always a place for a Fred Eckhardt reference in a Barleywine review. Some day maybe someone at the NT will also appreciate Fred is also a Sake expert.

Update: Great sounding beer and Chinese food event. Forgets to list beer pairings in a beer pairings? Is a poop reference de rigueur for beer stories now?

April 18, 2013

Bite My Shiny Metal (gl)Ass | Are We Headed for a Growler Showdown?


In December, I stopped by a Prescott brewery for a visit and noticed that they were selling and filling Hydroflask growlers with the brewery logo. From a distance they look ceramic because of a charcoal powder coating, but they are double walled stainless steel. I asked someone behind the bar about them and let them the know according to the law, growlers had to me made of glass. That law is Title 4 of the Arizona Revised Statutes and it was the law that opened growler fills to retailers and bars. It states plainly:
4-244.  32
c) A Bar, Beer And Wine Bar, Liquor Store, Beer And Wine Store Or Domestic Microbrewery Licensee Who Dispenses Beer Only In A Clean Glass Container With A Maximum Capacity That Does Not Exceed One Gallon And Not For Consumption On The Premises ...
We joked about how stupid the law was. I even told him that liquor agents were specifically asked about stainless steel and ceramics at a distributor's Q&A and the agents held firm to the letter of the law. He shrugged and that was the end of it. I'm hoping that I did not come across as a smug flatlander, but I have to admit that I marveled at the seemingly under-the-radar nature of rural Arizona. 

I've known one other Arizona brewery to fill stainless containers in the North Country. I suspect others are filling for a few customers. I know that every brewery has an interest in allowing their use. It seems silly that the law precludes us from using the vessel of choice for brewers across the world. They may have used glass lined tanks in Latrobe or the old A-1 Brewery, but these days stainless fermentation tanks are industry standard. The material of the vessel can't be a health and safety issue. I defy anyone to tell me how ceramic is materially different than glass in terms of packaging and why the state has an interest in specifying one over the other.

One only need look at the success of the can in brewing and look at the glass strewn highways and parks of the state to realize that the stainless steel growler is going to be a  necessary part of outdoor living in Arizona. I guarantee that you will not see shards of steel from a broken hydroflask on the banks of Woods Canyon Lake. No one is going to abandon the metal husk of a growler on a picnic table.

Yesterday things got interesting. I saw a post on Instragram. A valley brewery is selling the shiny metal versions of the hydroflask. I was told that people are getting them filled. There is absolutely no way that the practice will go unnoticed given the brewery's size and the scope of their social media outreach.

So what is going on here? Has there been an enforcement agreement? Is this a test case? An act of civil disoBEERdience? A miscommunication?

I'm unable to get answers from my usual channels. I am headed to the brewery to find out.


Update:
Advice: Buy one. Get it filled. This growler will last you a lifetime. You will save about $8 in shipping. You will hand it down to your children like an heirloom (or lose it like a pair of sunglasses.) Don't expect everyone to honor filling it. If at such time the state mandates that they cannot be filled where you bought it, then fill it with homebrew. At some point the law will be changed to something clear and rational.

Until then, flaunt your pair of steel family jewels.